AdminAddict - vBulletin and Internet Brands Passionate Discussion http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/ For all vBulletin and Internet Brands discussion - passionate debates, complaints, and compliments. en Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:07:25 GMT vBulletin 10 http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/images/adminaddict/misc/rss.jpg AdminAddict - vBulletin and Internet Brands Passionate Discussion http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/ 51 members on vb.com http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/51-members-vbulletin-com-6063/ Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:29:21 GMT vs 63 on ipb.com. wow. Still a lot more guests on vb.com though, but still... vs 63 on ipb.com. wow.

Still a lot more guests on vb.com though, but still... ]]> vBulletin and Internet Brands Passionate Discussion Abomination http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/51-members-vbulletin-com-6063/ Internet Brands stopping Sphinx integration on purpose? http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/internet-brands-stopping-sphinx-integration-purpose-6060/ Mon, 08 Mar 2010 00:14:14 GMT From a post at vB.com: ---Quote--- I have seen comments about implementing Sphinx from IB employee. They are using Sphinx on IB sites, and... From a post at vB.com:

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I have seen comments about implementing Sphinx from IB employee. They are using Sphinx on IB sites, and it is IB's competitive advantage against other sites using vB. Do not expect it to be released soon ]:->
If so, that would exactly why them buying vBulletin was a bad idea. ]]> vBulletin and Internet Brands Passionate Discussion cheat-master30 http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/internet-brands-stopping-sphinx-integration-purpose-6060/ Can we just merge this with the normal vB section? http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/can-we-just-merge-normal-vbulletin-section-6012/ Sun, 21 Feb 2010 18:40:46 GMT It's a pain having having two sections for the same topic tbh :-/ ]]> vBulletin and Internet Brands Passionate Discussion Razasharp http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/can-we-just-merge-normal-vbulletin-section-6012/ Do you think vBulletin should continue with their gradual refactoring? http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/do-you-think-vbulletin-should-continue-their-gradual-refactoring-6008/ Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:37:42 GMT Or just say 'screw this' and rewrite everything at once? I've seen quite a few people on vBulletin.com suggest maybe they should just scrap the step by step refactoring and release a full rewrite like the original intention to fix the bugs. ]]> vBulletin and Internet Brands Passionate Discussion cheat-master30 http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/do-you-think-vbulletin-should-continue-their-gradual-refactoring-6008/ Internet Brands 4th Qtr 2009 Results... http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/internet-brands-4th-qtr-2009-results-6002/ Fri, 19 Feb 2010 01:37:20 GMT Full PR Release Internet Brands, Inc. - Internet Brands, Inc. Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2009 Financial Results... Full PR Release Internet Brands, Inc. - Internet Brands, Inc. Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2009 Financial Results

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Licensing revenues were $10.1 million in the fourth quarter of 2009 compared to $8.2 million in the prior year period. The increase in licensing revenues was primarily the result of the successful fourth quarter launch of the Company's vBulletin 4.0 publishing suite.
]]> vBulletin and Internet Brands Passionate Discussion gnatster http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/internet-brands-4th-qtr-2009-results-6002/ When did all this start to happen? http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/when-did-all-start-happen-5982/ Mon, 15 Feb 2010 06:57:08 GMT Approximately what day was the new licensing structure released?

It has been so long I've forgotten. ]]> vBulletin and Internet Brands Passionate Discussion Abomination http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/when-did-all-start-happen-5982/ <![CDATA[No wonder Internet Brands don't get the best writers...]]> http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/no-wonder-internet-brands-dont-get-best-writers-5940/ Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:55:26 GMT For their websites...

They literally just pay FOUR DOLLARS a 200 word article. That's nothing, and it's not exactly shouting 'quality content', is it?

A chance for me to write real articles on cars. Scam? - Motor Trend The Drive-In Forum

Maybe that's why vBulletin 4 has no documentation, because no staff are going to write for those prices...

Edit: This is a two hundred word article sample I wrote in four minutes:

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This is an article which is apparently 200 words long and it’s an article example so it’s deliberately poorly written like you’d get for only 4 dollars. How saddening. Two hundred words is really nothing, so you won’t get quality writers for that much, no siree. Indeed, writing 200 words is about a fifth of your standard minimum essay length for college/university, and $4 is far below what the minimum wage would be. Who they aiming at, people in third world countries? Wouldn’t be surprising, not with the current trend of manual labour moving to countries like China where the prices that need to be paid are far cheaper.

If people honestly take up IB on their offer, they are seriously considered insane by most, and it probably explains exactly why vBulletin gets no decent documentation, because the developers are hard at work and the writers are mediocre at best, like any websites the company buys. In conclusion, this article is horrible quality, says nothing but technically would get me that $4 if I was an Internet Brands employee. Because really, people honestly think rubbish like this is worth money or time? It’s not, not way in hell, heck no!
]]> vBulletin and Internet Brands Passionate Discussion cheat-master30 http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/no-wonder-internet-brands-dont-get-best-writers-5940/ What is the urgency to change away from vb3.8? http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/what-urgency-change-away-vb3-8-a-5931/ Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:32:16 GMT Curious. Several have been changing over to other solutions. Why change now, and not stick with vb3.x for several more months? I can... Curious. Several have been changing over to other solutions.

Why change now, and not stick with vb3.x for several more months?

I can understand using other software for new forums, but for an existing forum, what advantage is there to changing now?

Is IPB accommodating requests for changes now but not later? ]]> vBulletin and Internet Brands Passionate Discussion Abomination http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/what-urgency-change-away-vb3-8-a-5931/ What do you think will happen with vBulletin in the far future? http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/what-do-you-think-will-happen-vbulletin-far-future-5886/ Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:32:40 GMT As in, vBulletin 5 timeline? I'm wondering whether you think it'll improve quite a bit, what with all the old vB 3 code likely having been phased out since then. Think any new, interesting features will be added? Hell, think they'd ever change the name from vBulletin to try and get rid of their own caused bad press? ]]> vBulletin and Internet Brands Passionate Discussion cheat-master30 http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/what-do-you-think-will-happen-vbulletin-far-future-5886/ Will there be a vbulletin 5 for us http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/will-there-vbulletin-5-us-5821/ Mon, 25 Jan 2010 07:47:41 GMT Now we have vbulletin 4 and I wonder if there will ever be a vbulletin 5 which we can buy. Or will vbulletin 5 only be available to IBs internal use?... Now we have vbulletin 4 and I wonder if there will ever be a vbulletin 5 which we can buy. Or will vbulletin 5 only be available to IBs internal use? I can't help but have to ask me this question. What do you think? ]]> vBulletin and Internet Brands Passionate Discussion Adam Green http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/will-there-vbulletin-5-us-5821/ Small article I found... http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/small-article-i-found-5782/ Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:27:17 GMT Interesting little article on vBulletin 4 which is described as "unstable"...

Global Gold: Under-fire vBulletin version gets update ]]> vBulletin and Internet Brands Passionate Discussion Gordie http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/small-article-i-found-5782/ Rantings of a mad man..... http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/rantings-mad-man-5780/ Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:56:19 GMT This guy is well beyond psychotic. Purposely shipping product with the 'oh well maybe the next release it will work' attitude?

He has no ethics or integrity, and does not care about anyone but himself. While he does seem able to deliver made up marketing speak, and seems quite capable of leaching off others hard work, he has done nothing positive in his career that I can tell. At least I now have clear direction after months of agonizing over this.




Link to a psychotics rants

For years we have implemented the concepts of sense and respond, in the context of a learning organization. For new web services, we reduced the time of market trials from months to weeks. We dramatically lowered the actual costs of experiments to the point of immateriality. And we improved forecasting accuracy.

In short, we were better, cheaper, and faster.

But we were still too slow. By stringing together waves of testing, it might take many months to extract major learnings. And being slow is very, very expensive.

We've recently begun to solve this problem through massive parallelization of sense and respond techniques. Rather than waiting for the results of a wave of testing, we continually launch new, overlapping waves. While we are unable to incorporate learning from one wave into the next sequentially, we have multiplied the speed of individual insights. We then reconcile and apply the learnings "on-the-fly" and/or "after-the-fact".

Our new process is less scientific, a little more costly, and a bit chaotic. But it is faster, creates far more value, and leads to higher quality. We are better meeting the challenges of the acceleratron. ]]> vBulletin and Internet Brands Passionate Discussion Abomination http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/rantings-mad-man-5780/ Idea for Mr. Darby! http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/idea-mr-darby-5779/ Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:11:54 GMT Firstly, before I get started, I'd like to congratulate Kier on the arrival of his new Son James. :)

Now, moving on...

I was reading over Brandon's thread about being fed up with vBulletin and also the various comments made by fellow members. Those comments, along with the additional comments and the poll results in the thread that I started, led me to the following idea.

Now let me preface by saying, that I'm not sure what if any legal considerations there might be, that might not allow this idea to go forward. And let me also preface by saying that my idea obviously hinges and relies on a number of assumptions which I have made, many of which may or may not be plausible or possible.

So disclaimers aside, here is the idea that I would like throw out there for public consumption and discussion...

Considering that many current vB3 owners simply hate vB4 for a variety of reasons and considering that many of the same owners would appear to be unwilling to move to vB4, and also at the same time, be very reluctant to ever give IB another dime of their hard earned money and considering that many of these vB3 owners would be willing, or would perhaps even prefer to simply stick with the vBulletin 3.8 indefinitely, what if....

Kier offered a service, which in essence would be a paid service allowing access to security patches for vB3.8 The main benefit and objective of this service being, to allow current vB3 owners to carry on running vB3 beyond the period of time when IB decides to declare 3.8 EOL and stops supporting it.

As part of Kier's vB3 security service package, a purchaser would also then gain access or perhaps a preferred discount on the purchase of Kier's new (rumoured) BB software when it is finally released.

Now before you quickly dismiss this idea (if you have) hear me out on this...

I think something along these lines, would be a win/win situation for both Kier and also for many soon to be former vB customers.

And here's my rationale on why....

The reality is, that not too far in the future, vB will declare 3.8 EOL. At that point, it is becoming increasingly obvious, that many vB3 owners have either already made the decision, or will make the decision to not purchase a vB4 license, and will instead opt to move to IPB or other software. I would imagine some, will also keep choose to just running 3.8 although for many, this will unfortunately be is a less then secure state.

Some of the benefits for Kier under this concept would be....

He (Kier) gets some revenue for his new company/project with the sale of the security licenses. At the same time, he also buys himself time to work on his new software and release a strong well developed product, thereby increasing the likelyhood of it's long term success. Also, I believe Kier leaves himself in a much stronger position, in that once current vB3 owners start moving on and working through the hastle of moving their boards to other software, I would imagine they might be very reluctant to then turn around and go through the turmoil of doing another import all over again to move to Kier's new softare, especially given that possible negative impact changing BB software can have on established communities. Further, is much easier for Kier to create a robust importer for a large group of vB3 users, a program which he is intimately familiar with, versus the alternative of trying to create a variety of importers in an effort to win back former vB3 users who have since moved on.

The benefits for current vB3 owners has already been mostly spelled out, but at the risk of repeating myself and stating the obvious....

Current vB3 owners can continue to operate vB3 in a secure state past IB's EOL declaration. Owners avoid having to purchase a vB4 license or alternatively, purchase a license to IPB or something else. Owners avoid having to go through the work, turmoil and challenges of converting their communities over to new software that might be their second choice to vB3 or Kier's new BB. Current owners can avoid forking over another dime to IB, something many owners are very unwilling to do, given all that has transpired. There would be restored value in the ownership of a vB3 series license as it would actually be useful once again.

And those are just a few benefits I came up with off the top of my head. I would think there are many more possible benefits, to both Kier and vB3 owners, but I would think the basic idea and concept has been laid out well enough to spur discusstion, so I would therefore turn things over to you.

I look forward to your comments on the idea, be they words of support or caustic criticism and flat out dismissal of it being insane! :devil: ]]> vBulletin and Internet Brands Passionate Discussion Gordie http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/idea-mr-darby-5779/ Too many versions! http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/too-many-versions-5770/ Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:54:31 GMT What I do not understand is WHY they are releasing so many different versions. The support staff will have a terrible time keeping track of which... What I do not understand is WHY they are releasing so many different versions.

The support staff will have a terrible time keeping track of which version did what, and the only way they will be able to handle that is to tell people to 'up grade' to a version they are currently supporting.

And of course that may not be possible depending on what modifications are being used.

Same goes for the vb.com forums. How to help someone, or get help, when there will be 20 versions of v4?

It makes no sense at all and, to me, it appears that is a 'time bomb' of confusion that will eventually render the software (almost) unusable.


What do you think? Am I misunderstanding the number of intended versions? ]]> vBulletin and Internet Brands Passionate Discussion Abomination http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/too-many-versions-5770/ Is this a competitor to IB? http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/competitor-ib-5766/ Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:33:33 GMT Source Interlink Media - Automotive Digital (http://www.simautomotive.com/oursites.html) Looks like it to me. Also, what script is this forum... Source Interlink Media - Automotive Digital

Looks like it to me.

Also, what script is this forum using?
Car Forum ? Auto Enthusiast Discussions in the Motor Trend Forums ]]> vBulletin and Internet Brands Passionate Discussion Abomination http://www.adminaddict.net/forum/vbulletin-internet-brands-passionate-discussion/competitor-ib-5766/